Can we rescue science from consciousness?

🙆 Physics is (just) the theory of machines that record information? 

(been trying to say f u to science for a minute, and maybe this sticks... take it as seriously as any gen AI ofc)
-- perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/take-the-following-definition-2By0vc6xRVeB46Y4SrKwZg#3 )

1. What Is a Machine?

Science is about experiments and data, and data means measurements we make with machines. So if we are to talk about science, we probably should first understand what we require it to be.. A theory of measurements made with machines...

So, let's say that a “machine” is any device, natural or made, that marks the world in a measurable way. It could be a telescope catching light, a computer bit changing from 0 to 1, or your eyes perceiving motion. Each machine records values, and it does so in a space and time grid—call it 3+1D, three dimensions of space, one of time.​

But the grid is only our way to track things. It doesn’t have to be straight or flat. It could be curved, spinning, folded, or branching. The spacing between points—the smallest “tick” a machine can resolve—is some finite distance, call it τ. Two events closer than τ can’t be separately recorded. That’s the machine’s natural grain.

Every machine has a few shared traits:

1. A place to record: events, energies, or numbers spread over its own geometry.

2. A smallest distance: a built-in limit, so it never measures infinitely finely.

3. A way to label things: it needs a reference—“here” and “then”—so its records mean something.

4. A largest reach: however far it can sense; beyond that, the world becomes background.

5. Interaction: to record is to touch. No measurement is passive. Something in the machine responds.

6. Organization of data: the machine can list unordered collections (statistical) or ordered flows in time (sequential).

7. A causal limit: information cannot move arbitrarily fast—there’s a maximum pace to all change (light speed or its local equivalent).

That’s it—no quantum fields, no geometry postulates, just the plain rules of how any recording system must behave if it belongs to this universe.

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2. Physics as a Byproduct of Recording

Once you look at physics from this angle, laws become rules that all valid machines agree on.

The Shape of Reality Depends on What Can Be Recorded

Because every machine lives on a grid, it carries a built-in sense of distance and direction. If you move your machine or rotate your labeling, the recorded relationships shouldn’t change. This is that familiar word invariance—but here, it's not an axiom of nature; it’s a consistency rule of measurement itself.

If the machine sits on a curved grid, its records still align with the same logic, just measured differently. Spacetime curvature, in that sense, is how a machine perceives uneven spacing between its own points. That’s general relativity emerging, not assumed.​

Interactions and Gauge Fields

Machines can’t measure without interfering. To keep the rules stable, they introduce compensating fields that track how local labels twist—a simple rule gives rise to gauge fields. When those twists involve one internal “phase,” you get electromagnetism (U(1)); with a richer internal shape, you reach the electroweak forces (SU(2)×U(1)). The machine’s requirement for local consistency is gauge invariance.​

Scale and Depth

Shrink τ and you can resolve finer details. Stretch τ and you just see broader averages. When the results of each scale agree in form, you have scale invariance, and when their flow stabilizes, you’ve reached what physicists call a universal law. The world’s laws look the same because the world stays the same when you adjust the zoom of your machine.​

But even if you imagine τ → 0, reality won’t follow infinitely—nature keeps a smallest tick, maybe around the Planck length, beyond which the notion of point-by-point dissolves. So the continuum our equations enjoy is an illusion: an ideal machine limit.​

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3. How Space, Time, and Motion Emerge

Time doesn’t have to preexist. In measurement-based frameworks, time appears as a pattern of recording—each new value updates what the machine knows. The sense of flow is linked to the sequence of updates. Different machines, depending on their internal pacing, could feel different rhythms of time, which naturally explains relativity of simultaneity.​

Space arises from how neighboring records align. The rule “who can interact with whom” forms causal cones around events. This causality—the fact that you can’t affect what’s outside your future cone—sets the foundation for the speed limit, $c$. From that, Lorentz symmetry emerges as a way all valid machines reconcile their record keeping.​

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4. Information, Energy, and Limits

When a machine records, it costs energy. Landauer’s principle says erasing or fixing a bit costs at least $k_{B}T\ln 2$. Information has physical weight. The energy needed to mark the universe, if done too precisely, could itself warp spacetime.​

Combine that with holographic limits—where total information fits on a surface, not in the bulk—and big machines (like black holes) turn into perfect boundaries of record capacity. The cosmos becomes a layered machine whose boundary notes everything inside.​

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5. What Still Needs Measuring

Even if you rebuild physics from these rules, you don’t escape all numbers. Some quantities must still be measured once to ground the scale:

• Masses of particles: these set how strongly matter curves its own grid and how easily it interacts.

• Fundamental couplings: how sensitive the machine is to field twists (electric charge, weak coupling).

• Conversion factors: between units of length, time, and energy—our calibrations of τ.

Once anchored, every other pattern—motion, radiation, curvature—comes from interplay between these recorded quantities and the limits of the grids that measure them.

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6. Symmetries That Follow Naturally

When measurements obey locality and causality, certain symmetries appear automatically:

• Parity (P): flipping the machine’s orientation reverses label signs but not the relationships among them.

• Time (T): reversing the order of records reconstructs a consistent but inverted story.

• Charge (C): exchanging active and passive tags in recording swaps internal labels but keeps rules intact.

Altogether they yield a CPT-like balance: if every machine is local, causal, and reversible in its evolution, its recorded universe will honor this trinity. Any apparent violation, like CP-breaking in weak interactions, simply means the machine’s own grid rules allow asymmetry within those confines.

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7. Seeing Physics Differently

Physics, under this lens, isn’t about discovering prewritten equations—it’s about understanding what every valid measurement device must agree on.

• Geometry comes from how you arrange recordings.

• Forces appear when you keep consistency across neighboring records.

• Time is the rhythm of updating.

• Constants are the fingerprints of the machine’s own limits.

The universe is not a book of laws waiting to be read; it’s an ongoing conversation between machines capable of marking correlations. Each theory—the Standard Model, general relativity, or quantum mechanics—is just a particular dialect of that language, born from how its machines talk to the world.

There's a bit more physics on the perplexity chat if you care :)  -- https://www.perplexity.ai/search/take-the-following-definition-2By0vc6xRVeB46Y4SrKwZg#2